Russia (bbabo.net), - Among the Russian figures to whom the president of the country presented state awards in the Catherine's Hall of the Kremlin in early February was Vladimir Resin. His work as a deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation and a man who has been building Moscow for six decades was awarded the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, 1st degree. So Resin became a full gentleman of this order. And, of course, at the "Business Breakfast" recently held in Rossiyskaya Gazeta, journalists could not help but congratulate Vladimir Iosifovich on such an event.
Moscow is getting warmer with churchesVladimir Iosifovich! Once again, we sincerely congratulate your high award. How do you like the role of a complete gentleman?
Vladimir Resin: This title is a great honor for me. Of course, I am grateful to the president for such an assessment of my work in Moscow in various positions - from the head of the site to the head of the Moscow construction complex, the first deputy mayor of the capital and now - as a deputy of the State Duma. But I want to say right away that this is not only my merit. First of all, those who built and continue to build Moscow next to me. And also those who, unfortunately, no longer exist.
You built entire sleeping areas and the Third Transport Ring in the capital, reconstructed the Bolshoi Theater and the Moscow Ring Road, built Moscow City on the site of the industrial zone and restored the destroyed Cathedral of Christ the Savior. Why do you continue to build churches even now, when you have been working in the country's parliament for more than ten years?
Vladimir Resin: You see, great attention has always been paid to the development of Moscow, including in Soviet times - from Stalin to Grishin and Promyslov. They built everything that was envisaged by the master plan - housing, schools, kindergartens, clinics ... At the very least, new roads were laid. Temples were not built. Luckily enough of them have been preserved in the city center. But in the sleeping areas, solid white spots were striking. In the areas of Yasenevo, Teply Stan, Bibirevo, Zhulebino, Maryino, under a million inhabitants. And emptiness, not like a church, no chapel. It was wrong, because although Moscow is a multinational and multi-confessional city, the majority of Orthodox people in it. So we came to the conclusion that we need to create everything anew - the construction, architectural, regulatory, design base for the construction of temples. The beginning of this was laid back when Moscow was within the old borders. Now 283 temples are in operation, 109 have already been built. 93 temple complexes have been consecrated and there is a service going on. Another 11 are expected to be commissioned soon. Plus, there are 131 temporary temples. Finally, Moscow came to the conclusion that now it has a temple for every 30-40 thousand inhabitants. A foreigner recently told me: with the advent of these temples, the appearance of the whole of Moscow has changed. I agree with him: it seems to be warmer in new areas.
Do you still take construction detours every Saturday?
Vladimir Resin: Doctors forbid this because of the coronavirus. But on Saturdays I come to my office on Nikitsky Lane and discuss via zoom, in remote access, with archpriests and deacons, where difficulties arose at which construction site. And do you know what conclusion you came to? In this format, it is possible to delve into the matter even better than during any trip, since the whole picture of what is happening at the facility is visible in detail. The main problem is not how to build a temple, but where to find the money.
And where do you find them?
Vladimir Resin: Various charitable foundations and businessmen donate, but the main support comes from ordinary parishioners. Each note filed in the temple, each candle purchased is a huge support for the church. Last year, for example, 3.5 billion rubles were collected as a result. Look, for example, at the memorial plaques on the Cathedral of Christ the Savior. They also have the names of thousands of people whose money we used to restore this shrine. And not only Russians and not only Orthodox. Such an attitude to the restoration of churches is very important - after all, in Russia we still have about 7,000 churches that have been destroyed or are in disrepair. And even in ruins. They need to be restored or at least conserved so as not to be lost. Innotech XXI, a charitable foundation for supporting the revival of Russian Orthodox architecture, has digitized about 100 churches in 2021, but thousands more are waiting for it.
Finally, Moscow came to the conclusion that now there is a temple in it - for every 30-40 thousand inhabitants. With the advent of these temples, the appearance of the whole of Moscow has changed
Back to news | Was it due to preferential mortgages?Vladimir Resin: Mortgage, of course, played a role. But the secret of the success of the country's construction complex team, headed by Marat Khusnullin, who had previously replaced me as deputy mayor of Moscow, is that she deals with housing in a complex way. It develops the building materials industry and improves housing construction technologies, relies on more rational projects, and expands the categories of housing under construction. But most importantly, he does everything to make housing affordable for Russians. So that those who want to acquire it as a property could buy an apartment. Or like in Europe and America, had the opportunity to rent it at an affordable price. Cooperative housing began to develop again, as it used to be, when people contributed money in a funded form and built apartments for themselves. Why not? There are many methods. I have been dealing with housing since the 60s, ever since Khrushchev set the task of providing every citizen of the country with a separate apartment. A lot has already been done for this, but right now, in my opinion, it is possible to achieve this goal if we build 120 million square meters a year, as Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin sets the task.
Moscow also set a record in 2021 - it built 7.4 million square meters of housing...
Vladimir Resin: For Moscow Mayor Sergei Semyonovich Sobyanin and his military deputy Andrei Yuryevich Bochkarev, I think this is not the limit. I am sure that they will reach both 9 and 10 million "squares" per year. But their most important merit lies in the fact that over the past ten years they have been building not only residential buildings, but are conducting a comprehensive development of the city. Moreover, not only kindergartens, schools and clinics are being built next to the houses, but good roads are being built, creating jobs for new settlers. Housing, which is provided for everyone, is very important for Muscovites.
But the capital is often criticized for such a scale of housing construction. They say that Moscow is not rubber, why artificially increase its population? Moreover, apartments are often bought not by Muscovites, but by residents of other cities, just to make a profitable investment.
Vladimir Resin: So say those who look up to the cities of Europe. But in them basically everything has already been done for a normal comfortable life, the same housing accounts for 70 "squares" per person, and in Moscow so far only 20 square meters per inhabitant. So there will be enough work not only for you and me, but also for our grandchildren. Especially after the area of the capital increased two and a half times in 2012.
I don’t see anything wrong with the fact that not only city dwellers buy apartments in Moscow, but, for example, northern oil workers - they still work there, in remote areas, so the light is not on in their windows. Moscow is not only for Muscovites, it is the capital of our country and all Russians have the right to live in it.
What can you say about the renovation program in the capital? Is it real in time? It took you ten years to demolish 1700 houses of the first period of prefabricated housing construction. Now in fifteen years it is necessary to demolish more than 5 thousand houses and resettle about a million Muscovites in new apartments.
Vladimir Resin: I don't doubt for a minute that the program will be implemented and will solve a lot of social problems through the comprehensive development of the city. All its nuances are spelled out in a specially adopted law, the president supported the renovation, and Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin is involved in it every day. 70 thousand Muscovites have already received new housing due to renovation. Great apartments in great houses. I say this with confidence, because I took an active part in the creation of both the program and the law on renovation, and I still continue to control this matter as the chairman of the expert council under the State Duma Committee on Construction and Housing and Public Utilities.
Yuri Mikhailovich Luzhkov and I, when we were building new houses on the site of the Khrushchev, had a completely different situation. We were forced to demolish them. In the early 1990s, budgetary financing of housing construction ceased. Moscow house-building factories were on the verge of stopping. 40,000 of their workers could end up on the street without a paycheck. All the programs hung over the government of Moscow - providing housing for those on the waiting list, the disabled, war veterans ... The city had no money for their implementation, there was only land. So we had an idea: to build new skyscrapers on the site of old, dilapidated five-story buildings. Give free apartments to residents in them, and sell part of the apartments in order to build further and provide Muscovites with housing, including social programs. So this topic was born - without money, without laws, one might say, according to concepts. And she justified herself, not a single lawsuit was filed. 365 thousand Muscovites then received new apartments and live in them to this day. The city invested only in the development of engineering.
In Russia, following the example of Moscow, they were engaged in renovation?Vladimir Resin: In December 2020, the President of the Russian Federation signed the new Federal Law N 494-FZ on the integrated development of territories (CRT). The people called it "all-Russian renovation". This law proposes to extend the experience of the Moscow renovation program to the whole country when resettling dilapidated housing. In addition to dilapidated housing, non-damaged houses may be included in the program if the roof or foundation is worn out and if major repairs of the house are too expensive and impractical. Many regions are ready to start renovation, a number of regions have already started this. And in the forefront - Moscow, Nizhny Novgorod, Tyumen regions and the Khabarovsk Territory.
You faced the problem of deceived equity holders when you were still working as the Deputy Mayor of Moscow. But thousands of people still care about it today. But only Kotelniki in the Moscow region are ready to close it once and for all this year, as Rossiyskaya Gazeta recently reported. When will people who invest in housing construction stop being deceived across the country?
Vladimir Resin: Good question. But I am not the Politburo to promise what will happen in what year. I can only say about the goal: the task was set to solve this problem in Russia in 2023-2024, and in Moscow in 2023. After the president intervened, and the State Duma passed several laws, the situation changed noticeably for the better. For example, all SU-155 houses were handed over and the deceived equity holders were paid off.
I see no point in building wooden skyscrapers in large cities of central Russia, since there are proven materials. Such construction will not be cheaper
There is another acute problem associated with housing - apartments. She has also been approached more than once. In the fall, the Federation Council even presented its own draft law, which proposes to equate them with housing. But while the law has not been adopted, and apartments have already risen in price by 23 percent. The owners of apartments in them both lived in a legal vacuum and live. They can neither register in the purchased housing, nor send the child to kindergarten or school...
Vladimir Resin: And this problem is on the verge of being solved. She also comes from the 90s, when they tried to build something cheaper. The apartments were not so expensive because their developers are not required to build either schools or kindergartens in the neighborhood. Could, for example, just put the house in fact in the industrial zone. But in Moscow now, next to the apartments, real residential buildings have already grown and the necessary social infrastructure has appeared. Therefore, it is easier to resolve the issue here, as in St. Petersburg. In other cities, where the economy and development are worse, it is more difficult. But it is impossible to adopt a separate law for each region! Let's wait a bit. The State Duma Committee on Construction and Housing is working on this issue. And I think that it will soon come to some common opinion with the government of the country and industry experts.
How do you feel about the idea of building wooden high-rise buildings, which is also being actively discussed?
Vladimir Resin: Why not? It is more pleasant to live in a wooden house, it breathes well. This is especially promising for Siberia and the Far East, where wood is one of the main building materials. For such areas, I agree: the future belongs to wooden housing, mostly individual. Or at least not more than four or five stories high. Of course, I could be wrong, but I don’t see the point in building skyscrapers from wood, since there are proven materials.
As I do not see the need to engage in wooden construction in Moscow and other large cities of central Russia, where there are no forests for felling. Such construction will not be cheaper here.
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Resin Happiness IndexMoscow has built 100 metro stations over the past decade! Have you seen them? Do you like it?
Vladimir Resin: I like it very much! It is impossible not to admire how the Moscow metro is developing. Every year 10-12 new stations are put into operation. Who would have thought that the metro could go to Troitsk - 40 kilometers from Moscow. And how many more new roads have been built, electric buses run around the city ... Yury Mikhailovich and I could not dream of this. They rejoiced when a light metro was built in Yuzhny Butovo. But then Moscow had a completely different budget.
Vladimir Resin: When I handed over my affairs to Sergei Semenovich in 2010, I was proud that the capital's budget had reached almost a trillion rubles. And now Moscow, headed by the mayor, has raised it to 3.5 trillion rubles!
Vladimir Iosifovich! Recently, a fashionable topic has appeared: Muscovites are now and then offered different components in order to calculate their happiness index. Are you a happy person?Vladimir Resin: I approach this concept philosophically. Happiness is to do what has not yet been done, what is yet to be done. Well, like Vysotsky: only mountains can be better than mountains. I am grateful to fate for the fact that throughout my life there were wonderful people who noticed me, raised me, supported me in difficult times. To all of them I am very grateful. The Moscow party organization... Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin, Yuri Mikhailovich Luzhkov, Sergei Semyonovich Sobyanin, His Holiness Patriarch Kirill and the Orthodox Church, of which I recently became one of the parishioners... And this is also happiness. Well, of course, I am very grateful to my wife Martha for the fact that she somehow tolerates me for more than six decades.
Vladimir Resin turns 86 today. The journalists of Rossiyskaya Gazeta heartily congratulate him on his birthday. Keep it up, Vladimir Iosifovich!